In essence it was everything you would expect it to be. Every time I saw an ad for it, in my imagination, a giant stamp would come down and add “WHITE” to the title. I suppose had it not been wrongly touted as “groundbreaking,” I would write it off as just another show by white people, for white…
This is just so ignorant. I guess your main contention is because it’s set in NYC it has to feature black people. Perhaps that might be true if it was workplace setting but if it’s just about a group of friends that doesn’t apply. White people usually hang around with other white people. Black people hang out with other black people, there are exceptions of course but the vast majority of Americans behave in this manner. Could they have thrown in a black friend? SURE. But unless she’s perfect for the role, or fits the character description the writers have of her then she’s basically a token character. Also you make a common faulty assumption in that your take a lack of a black character as a deliberate snub. Unless you have specific evidence for that then it’s just a conspiratorial rant.
Growing up and never seeing someone of your own race on TV? I was fine, thank you for asking.
Oh sure sometimes it bothered me, not just on tv but the fact there were no asian athletes in pro sports (yay Jeremy Lin) but for the most part I was cool with it. You know why? Because I see people as INDIVIDUALS not a RACE. So I watched “white” (quotations marks emphasized) people shows as well as “black” people shows like Fresh Prince or Moesha. Never once did I think, “You know Will Smith and Carlton are funny but I just wish they were asian”. Nor did I ask they add a asian player to my favorite NBA team just to boost my self esteem.
Wow. 1) clearly you do not live in Nyc. As someone who DOES, can tell you that it may be possible to self-segregate, but it’d be really fucking hard. NYC is one of the most diverse cities in the world; to whitewash it IS problematic. The “pointing out racism makes you racist” card is old as hell. 2) Basically ALL mainstream TV/movies cater toward white audiences. So WTF did you bring up Fresh Prince & Moesha for? Black people aren’t represented well in hollywood, so you’re saying its racist for them to create a space for themselves? HUH? 3) None of this would be THAT much of an issue if Girls wasn’t being heralded as some groundbreaking new show. And just because YOU are comfortable settling for nothing, does not mean that other POCs have to be as well.
And if “best for the part” equals rich/famous mommy and daddy, then yeah, they all fit the credentials.
Can people stop making fun of Girls HBO for being all-white and just state that they’re uncomfortable with a female-dominant show already
lol. so women of color questioning why a show set in brooklyn features an all-white cast are really just unable to handle a “female dominant” show. okay.
but why do white people derive such satisfaction in telling pocs that they are wrong about their own experiences
why do white people think they can identify what is and is not racist better than the people who actually EXPERIENCE racism
like, how does that make sense to you?? i just…don’t understand.
Susan B. Anthony, perhaps the most famous first-wave feminist, in a letter to Frederick Fucking Douglas. Now keep running your little white lips about how your feminism has always included people of color, you fucking racist, cissexist, piece of shit radfems. (via dionthesocialist)
Sorry but who says feminists have always included all people of color? I have never thought that. Though it would be nice if that was true as POC should be included (duh). However being a feminist doesn’t mean feeling superior to anyone. I do however feel superior to people who assume all white people are evil. That is not true. The whole of any group can’t all be evil. That doesn’t even make logical sense. Yeah there are evil white people. I am a Caucasian female and I want equal rights for everyone.
Please hear me out and realize I don’t want an argument or to hurt anyone with what I am saying here. If you feel you need to correct me please do. I don’t pretend to know everything or be perfectly PC. I just want to tell you how I feel when I see this…
I know that people of my ethnicity oppressed people of color for many years. I do not deny that racism is still going on a lot (trust me I see it way too often, I grew up in a town full of racial tension but that is another story). I see white people still oppressing POC all the time (look at the Trayvon case, it is just a terrible tragedy and it makes me ashamed of my “race” or rather ethic group). I know that there are tons of evil white people but I am a white person and I don’t want to oppress anyone. I am not responsible for the actions of my ancestors. I am responsible for how I treat people and how I take action against racism. I try my best to not perpetuate stereotypes and I am racially sensitive to a point where it annoys people but I feel like I need to be an example (because of where I was raised, in the South where there are tons of racist ignorant idiots, unfortunately). I try to show people that despite the environment you are born into, you can be a decent person and show respect to all people regardless of their skin color, religion, gender. Sometimes I see a lot of posts on tumblr that really make me feel attacked just because I was born white. I am not going to cry reverse racism. That is stupid. I know there is a really good reason for people to feel the way they do and say these things. I would like to point out though, that when someone exudes hate for a particular skin tone(in this case it is the white one) that you’re only pushing people of that group further from your opinion (which is valuable) or cause.
I don’t think this person whoever wrote this comment really thought about the few of us who are on his/her side. Any decent person can see that racism is still a huge problem. There are a few of us decent people left. And some of us are white. I don’t want a big fight or argument. I see their point and I agree with what they’re saying until they decide to lump me and every ignorant racist asshole in the world in the same category because we share the same skin color…
It isn’t a very nice feeling when I have argued with those racist fucks my whole life :(
The original post was directed toward white feminists who insist that feminism is or has ever been concerned with POC issues. This was never about you or your hurt feelings over not being mentioned every time someone brings up racism within the feminist movement. OBVIOUSLY not all white people are bad. And if you are aware of your privilege and the racism woc face in feminist circles, then clearly this was not directed at you. But taking a post made by a POC and making it about YOU is derailing as hell and simply unacceptable.
I mean, your post comes off as “I deserve a cookie/shout out for paying attention to issues WOC have been dealing with forever.” And that’s just…no.
Although there are many historical precedents for African American urban protest, the example the young women of Fresh Start referenced in explaining their brief protest was the 1999 school walkout by 2,000 Detroit area high school students in reaction to the public’s ineffective response to a series of rapes of high school girls. At the time of the school walkout in November of 1999, eight young black women had already been raped on their walks to and from school, but the action taken by police and school officials was slow and seemingly unconcerned. After a 17-year-old girl fended off her attacker by blowing a whistle she wore around her neck, the mayor finally called for the community to act by ‘‘patrolling the city streets when students travel to and from school,’’ while also suggesting that the best solution involved older siblings offering protection to their younger sisters.
In this first official, recorded statement, there was no mention of what the police would be called to do. The school board’s method for addressing the heinous assaults was to focus their attention on the young protestors who were promptly threatened with charges of truancy if there were any further walkouts. The lack of public alarm in relation to these sexual assaults and concurrent failure to protect on the part of the authorities was a bold commentary on the value of young black women.